You assume tanker crews know where they are going. We just turn on “George” and let him fly us around and around and around and around…….. And if you put in the wrong points he flies you right into Iran.
I heard a story back in ONW days. An F-15 pilot for some reason was RTB through Syria. The AWACS kept calling him and telling him to get the hell out of their airspace, but he just told him to pound sand, HE knows where he is! Never heard about the aftermath, but I strongly suspect that guy didn’t fly for awhile.
On another subject…just read that someone is working on new Back to the Future and Jurassic Park video games!
Heard about a Viper driver with the callsign “Fukarwe”. Had something to do with his lack of proficiency navigating, I guess, even with all those instruments. Radio chatter alive with calls of “Where the Fukarwe?” Hah!
ORE is different from ORI. Operational readiness exercise versus operational readiness inspection. ORE is not officially graded and used to get ready for ORI. ORI is graded/official.
me too, generally when ATC wants to give me the tour of Houston, DFW, New Orleans, to keep me out of the way of big iron, and when I am on a IFR flight plan, I must follow orders. Much more fun VFR, uh, above your airspace, cant descend/move due to clouds. ATC LOVES giving scenic routes.
Well I remember when the F-22 first went active and they had a four ship get lost over the pacific, apparently their gps went out and they had to call a tanker have them lead them home. And of course there have been many a time that a fighter has gotten screwed flying in Nevada at Red Flag because they ignored AWAC and flew over Area 51.
yeah…. fighter pilots aren’t the best at navigating, We had an Eagle driver talk to us and he kinda proudly mentioned about telling the local ATC to give him vectors because he can’t fly and look at a map at the same time…
Whenever someone talks about fighter pilots navigating, I can’t help but picture a guy with a chart opened up and spread out on the inside of his canopy, complete with one of those clear Boy Scout compasses and a pencil and ruler to figure out where he’s going.
Shades of the viral video Aziz Combat Fighter with a US highway atlas in the cockpit of a Fishbed… still sitting in the hanger, with the timer on his suicide vest ticking down.
Hmmm… haven’t seen Lawn Dhart lately, wasn’t she the IP for that enterprise or is she still incapacitated from that CBW incident? Also after Badgerworks and the hair incident, did they do anything else, besides DICKI to Barbie… the world may never find out (that darn owl)
The only time I’ve ever gotten lost was when I was using one of those GPS nav thingies. After looping around once, I pulled out a map. Where I needed to merge onto another highway, the GPS said right, the map said left. The right direction was left………..
And for the record, I have asked for directions on a few occasions. But I hate doing so in small towns. The directions usually include the description of where a building used to be, or someone’s house. And if I’m asking for directions, it would indicate that I dont know the area, let alone know who the Miller’s are. And I dont care that their son married some “pritty city girl” and moved out of town ten years ago.
GPS is an excellent tool, but what happens when your tool box only contains screw drivers and you need to pull a nail? I make a point to always keep road maps of the states I drive in, even though I am familiar with the roads, and even though I use GPS. Sometimes TomTom is just clueless, especially if you get to some of the less-trodden paths in East Texas (or newly developed areas near major cities even).
I avoided getting a Betty until just recently. Its primary function for now is to keep me on time for my scheduled arrivals. It hates the way I drive (I tend to know the short cuts that are really short cuts) and I swear sometimes its going to say “Right, then, you’ve bollixed this up right, you’re on your own.” My Mk1 Mod0 eyeball and manually operated directional sense have not failed me too badly in the last 30 years or so, so I must be doing something right.
I got lost in Yorkshire once, driving a rental car with my now-former mother-in-law in the left seat “navigating.” We got into some little wide spot in the road (aka a village) and we should have turned right, and I turned left, went across the river, turned right and continued to follow the highway signs. Finally, it was clear we were in the wrong place, and now there was a river between us and our destination. I pulled over, consulted the map for a minute, handed it back to her, continued the way I was going, made a couple turns and *pow* we were right where we were supposed to be about 5 minutes off our time estimate. I’m still not 100% sure how I did that, but it worked. Don’t trifle with a guy’s sense of direction.
I’m pretty sure mine’s going to one day say “Please make a legal U-turn where possible…dumba$$!”
Don’t know why it has to be a woman’s voice. Pretty sure my husband has his wife ears on when he’s in the car cause he always misses what she says and has to ask me!
I’m with you guys and having maps. Anytime I cant memorize the route, I have a handy-dandy road map, JIC. Recently though, my wife and I have utilized the GPS to find restraunts in unfamiliar towns and cities. Sure beats looking for a yellow pages =)
World’s BEST navigators….C-130 Nav’s and ANY Helicopter pilot. Both use road maps (no SERIOUSLY) and just look out the window most of the time. I’ve actually seen a heli-pilot land, get out walk up to a VERY suprised polizei and ask for directions in germany, my girlfriends jaw hit the ground, my comment was “Reservist, 30+ years, ‘Nam experience. Nuff said”. lol
Wouldn’t the tanker have better directions, being the ‘gas station’?
You assume tanker crews know where they are going. We just turn on “George” and let him fly us around and around and around and around…….. And if you put in the wrong points he flies you right into Iran.
Well, there’s a first time for everything… I wonder how long before Barbie would finally call AWACS for directions… probably never, out of spite…
FIRST to think “Onstar!!!”
Nice!
Help! I’m lost. I’ve got to find myself but if I get back before I return, please ask me to wait.
you’re ONLY ever lost if you CARE.
that is men’s secret. we’re not “lost”, we’re exploring new and interesting places.
Don’t them there planes have navigation instuments?
got to properly tune them in and use them right 1st!
I heard a story back in ONW days. An F-15 pilot for some reason was RTB through Syria. The AWACS kept calling him and telling him to get the hell out of their airspace, but he just told him to pound sand, HE knows where he is! Never heard about the aftermath, but I strongly suspect that guy didn’t fly for awhile.
On another subject…just read that someone is working on new Back to the Future and Jurassic Park video games!
He is still over land. He knows where he is. When you hit ocean, turn right or left as appropriate.
Heard about a Viper driver with the callsign “Fukarwe”. Had something to do with his lack of proficiency navigating, I guess, even with all those instruments. Radio chatter alive with calls of “Where the Fukarwe?” Hah!
Is this having to do with some sort of recent event?
Remember, Barbie and all are in a ORE right now.
(We called them ORI’s)
ORE is different from ORI. Operational readiness exercise versus operational readiness inspection. ORE is not officially graded and used to get ready for ORI. ORI is graded/official.
I meant the whole “taking the scenic route” bit. I’ve taken the scenic route a few times.
me too, generally when ATC wants to give me the tour of Houston, DFW, New Orleans, to keep me out of the way of big iron, and when I am on a IFR flight plan, I must follow orders. Much more fun VFR, uh, above your airspace, cant descend/move due to clouds. ATC LOVES giving scenic routes.
Well I remember when the F-22 first went active and they had a four ship get lost over the pacific, apparently their gps went out and they had to call a tanker have them lead them home. And of course there have been many a time that a fighter has gotten screwed flying in Nevada at Red Flag because they ignored AWAC and flew over Area 51.
Ask Mr. Owl.
“One, two, three *CRUNCH*….”
Lol, you can’t trust that owl for nothin!
*sigh*
They love each other so much. : )
Hahahahaha men… *shakes head*
… And I second what November said.
Oh, come on! Who wouldn’t want to take the scenic route with Leia … so to speak?
I wouldn’t mind exploring the peaks and valley’s……..
yeah…. fighter pilots aren’t the best at navigating, We had an Eagle driver talk to us and he kinda proudly mentioned about telling the local ATC to give him vectors because he can’t fly and look at a map at the same time…
Whenever someone talks about fighter pilots navigating, I can’t help but picture a guy with a chart opened up and spread out on the inside of his canopy, complete with one of those clear Boy Scout compasses and a pencil and ruler to figure out where he’s going.
That makes me think of 1941 with John Belushi using a gas station map in the cockpit of his P-40!
Shades of the viral video Aziz Combat Fighter with a US highway atlas in the cockpit of a Fishbed… still sitting in the hanger, with the timer on his suicide vest ticking down.
Hang on…I’m I seeing this right? Is Barbie in an F-22? Either I haven’t seen the trasition to the F-22, or I’m just plain seeing things.
http://www.afblues.com/?p=74
Hmmm… haven’t seen Lawn Dhart lately, wasn’t she the IP for that enterprise or is she still incapacitated from that CBW incident? Also after Badgerworks and the hair incident, did they do anything else, besides DICKI to Barbie… the world may never find out (that darn owl)
Oh, the world will know. As for Badger Works, well… http://www.badgerops.com/
The only time I’ve ever gotten lost was when I was using one of those GPS nav thingies. After looping around once, I pulled out a map. Where I needed to merge onto another highway, the GPS said right, the map said left. The right direction was left………..
And for the record, I have asked for directions on a few occasions. But I hate doing so in small towns. The directions usually include the description of where a building used to be, or someone’s house. And if I’m asking for directions, it would indicate that I dont know the area, let alone know who the Miller’s are. And I dont care that their son married some “pritty city girl” and moved out of town ten years ago.
GPS is an excellent tool, but what happens when your tool box only contains screw drivers and you need to pull a nail? I make a point to always keep road maps of the states I drive in, even though I am familiar with the roads, and even though I use GPS. Sometimes TomTom is just clueless, especially if you get to some of the less-trodden paths in East Texas (or newly developed areas near major cities even).
GPS has screwed me more then once. When I made my cross country TDY, it was by good ‘ol AAA road atlas.
I avoided getting a Betty until just recently. Its primary function for now is to keep me on time for my scheduled arrivals.
It hates the way I drive (I tend to know the short cuts that are really short cuts) and I swear sometimes its going to say “Right, then, you’ve bollixed this up right, you’re on your own.” My Mk1 Mod0 eyeball and manually operated directional sense have not failed me too badly in the last 30 years or so, so I must be doing something right.
I got lost in Yorkshire once, driving a rental car with my now-former mother-in-law in the left seat “navigating.” We got into some little wide spot in the road (aka a village) and we should have turned right, and I turned left, went across the river, turned right and continued to follow the highway signs. Finally, it was clear we were in the wrong place, and now there was a river between us and our destination. I pulled over, consulted the map for a minute, handed it back to her, continued the way I was going, made a couple turns and *pow* we were right where we were supposed to be about 5 minutes off our time estimate. I’m still not 100% sure how I did that, but it worked.
Don’t trifle with a guy’s sense of direction.
I’m pretty sure mine’s going to one day say “Please make a legal U-turn where possible…dumba$$!”
Don’t know why it has to be a woman’s voice. Pretty sure my husband has his wife ears on when he’s in the car cause he always misses what she says and has to ask me!
I’m with you guys and having maps. Anytime I cant memorize the route, I have a handy-dandy road map, JIC. Recently though, my wife and I have utilized the GPS to find restraunts in unfamiliar towns and cities. Sure beats looking for a yellow pages =)
Somehow, Kelly’s barb, “Maybe you’re just not that good a pilot” echoes off the mountains here… STS
Farva I don’t recognize the peak which one is it?
http://www.bugbog.com/images/galleries/alaska-pictures-usa/alaska-mount-mckinley.jpg
Oh! So it’s just the tallest mountain in the US. Got it.
Don’t worry- it just looks shorter from above
Roger
STS
It could be worse, at least they have AWACS. If they had to call the mighty E-8C JSTARS for directions they would be in deep sh*t
World’s BEST navigators….C-130 Nav’s and ANY Helicopter pilot. Both use road maps (no SERIOUSLY) and just look out the window most of the time. I’ve actually seen a heli-pilot land, get out walk up to a VERY suprised polizei and ask for directions in germany, my girlfriends jaw hit the ground, my comment was “Reservist, 30+ years, ‘Nam experience. Nuff said”. lol